Thursday 4 February 2016

Misinformation to Installers

I see lots of pictures of people showing off their magnetic filters full of magnetite and patting themselves on the back, but fitting these filters is not addressing the problem, I also see installers banging on about the need for inhibitors and that they must be added to comply with building regulations or for warranty for the boiler, this is wrong, there is no mention that inhibitors MUST be used in the building regulations and there is no mention in the majority of manufacturers manuals that lack of inhibitor in a system will invalidate a warranty, it may mention inhibitors, but does not say they MUST be used, however manufacturers do list the pH of water they require for their boilers, and conductivity of the water in their boilers, but how many installers actually check these facts

Another point I see raised is magnetite in a system, lets just clarify something here, magnetite is the stable natural layer of iron formed to passivate the metal, inhibitors just form a false protective layer, the problem comes when these layers get disturbed and this tends to be down to poor design of the heating system, If flow rates are high, conductivity high, and the pH is low or if there is a surplus of oxygen in the system, magnetite can be disturbed on the metal surface and set free in the water  
The most common reasons, are high flow rates and a high electrical conductivity, inhibitors actually increase the waters conductivity, so installers should be addressing these issues if they truly want to reduce corrosion.

I saw a blog recently from an installer commenting on electrochemical corrosion in heating systems, he called it a chemical reaction caused by the metals and water, this type of corrosion is caused between a noble (copper) and an un-noble metal iron. The inhibitor would cover the surface of these metals with an artificial layer, if it works properly this artificial layer is said to stop the electrochemical corrosion as it blocks any anodic and cathodic surface. The use of deionized water would do a similar thing. It blocks the flow of electrons due to the low electrical conductivity of the water, but with a properly designed system the electrochemical corrosion should not occur,  normally you don’t fit a copper pipe directly to iron instead you have a brass piece or gunmetal between both materials, this brass piece should have a length of min the diameter of the tube to act properly as an electrical insulator, with this electrical insulation you will not have the problem of electrochemical corrosion.

We see lots of stuff in trade magazines and at trade counters telling us we need this and that gizmo to prevent heating system corrosion, where in reality we just need to consider the design of the system, check pH, get the conductivity of the water low and carry out a good de-aeration procedure these factors will reduce system corossion, rather than gimmicks which do not, it is time installers started to look more at the science of heating system water and and acting on this knowledge to prevent corrosion causing problems, not just allow themselves to be sold products they are told they need
Basically the fact of the matter is inhibitors are only necessary if the system design and the water treatment is of poor quality! 

4 Comments:

At 4 February 2016 at 19:56 , Blogger Mike Walton said...

Well said Chris. Too many myths and misinformation peddled by businesses trying to sell us their unrequired rubbish.

 
At 4 February 2016 at 22:08 , Anonymous Shaun Cowan said...

You know your onions Chris, but the majority of installers especially on tight margin jobs will always find it easy just slinging a bottle of inhibitor into the system to satisfy all concerned. The chemical companies with big marketing budgets are the biggest challenge...

 
At 5 February 2016 at 04:28 , Blogger Vietec Heating Ltd said...

This is the problem we have, The chemical companies with big marketing budgets, aeverything I state is just basic Science, these are not my own theories, its nothing new and has always been known, yet it appears to be something installers have forgotten, or were never taught, I have been to loads of open vented systems in my time, these systems were obviously installed by installers you knew about the science of water, the need to ensure the system was self venting, as these systems are spotless, and not a sign of inhibitor anywhere, they knew that when designed and installed correctly, the metals would passivate themselves.

Installers need to arm themselves with the knowledge needed to ensure good design and how to correctly de-aerate a system, check pH, reduce conductivity, ensure no ingress of oxygen, use quality materials, not whats the cheapest pipe and fittings they can get their hands on and buying any gimmick that they see in the trade magazines or the merchants, because you are told its the best thing since sliced bread.

 
At 14 February 2016 at 12:12 , Anonymous Daniel Schneider said...

In most situations of life people are prone to do the most easiest and most obvious things rather than fighting the basic reasons. In view of black water and sludge in heating systems it is so easy to collect the dirt which is the result of ongoing corrosion. It is not only easier to sell the filter to the customer but easier to conduct as well. No one needs special knowledge to install a magnetic dirt separator. The one selling a magnetic dirt separator has not only the advantage of not beeing aware of the reasons for the black sludge but he proudly can show the customer that the dirt separator really does his job. In fact it is more difficult to educate and convince the customer that he should spend money in something he cannot see (real corrosion protection) than in something where he can see the result in form of black sludge. However, it is a question of personal taste what to do. Be part of a big marketing machine and take a profit out of it or do a proper job, earn less but gain knowledge and reputation!

 

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